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October 21, 2009

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Jeff

Great info and nice to hear. Would really like to hear more about filing the IRS Form 8854 and people's experience with that. It seems that many are only completing half of the process.

How smoothly do the IRS 8854 proceed?

If you do not file and are considered a covered expatriate, do those provisions expire after 5-10 years if you never file an 8854?

Mark Nestmann

Jeff,

No word on the Form 8854 on the communication Bob received.

Remember, under the new law, you don't need to file Form 8854 until you file your tax return for the year you expatriate. Depending on when you expatriate, that could be up to a year or more after you lose U.S. nationality.

Also, under the new law, you don't need to file Form 8854 to lose U.S. nationality and end future U.S. tax liability. But it's a good idea to file it.

If the IRS doesn't contest your calculations or your statement of tax compliance for the past five years within a year or two after you file Form 8854, you're probably home free. The IRS usually doesn't come after people for tax obligations many years in the past. It's harder to create a case and even harder to collect, especially if you no longer maintain any connections to the United States.

Oilwelldoctor

Nice if you don't minding forefitting $400K after-tax $ for citizenship. That money would go a long way toward paying US taxes until death. The USA has its problems granted, but living there, especially now with the recession/depression & low prices on real estate and food is about as good as it gets on a retirement income. BTW, I have been living abroad for the past 20 years and will retire in Tucson and/or south Florida.

Mark Nestmann

The real tax payoff for this strategy is for those who are willing to live in a lower-tax jurisdiction outside the USA. But many expatriates are less concerned with tax than with the incredible difficulty of complying with increasingly intrusive US tax and regulatory requirements when living abroad, along with the steady drift of the US government toward socialism and its alarming levels of debt.

George

3 years residency to get Canadian citizenship maybe a better option.

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